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Discussion of “Expansion and Regression in Oceanic Experience”

Lawrence Fischman

Psychoanalytic Dialogues November 2, 2025 DOI: 10.1080/10481885.2025.2574580 (opens in new tab)

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Characteristics Theoretical or philosophical paper Peer reviewed
Key points Argues that unitive feelings in psychedelic-assisted therapy can be understood from a relational perspective, which both converges with and contrasts with Peoples and Rundel's model of levels of consciousness.

Abstract

ABSTRACT In Expansion and Regression in Oceanic Experience, Peoples and Rundel examine “what happens from a psychoanalytic perspective when a patient engages in psychedelic-assisted therapy.” In an elegant paper that has both a clinical and theoretical focus, they discuss what Romain Rolland described metaphorically as the “oceanic feeling.” They believe such feelings can have transformative value, in contrast with what they see as a prevailing tendency among psychoanalysts, including me, to view such experiences as indications of pathological fusion and unhealthy regression. Here, I clarify my own relational perspective on unitive feelings and apply this to the case vignette offered in Peoples and Rundel’s paper. I highlight convergences and contrasts between this relational perspective and the far-reaching model of levels of consciousness proposed by Peoples and Rundel.